Excerpt: I first encountered Maturana’s challenging ideas over ten years ago through numerous references to his work in Erich Jantsch’s classic book, The Self- Organizing Universe (1980). Shortly afterwards, I began reading Maturana’s own work, and was pleased and surprised at the clarity of his expression and the refreshing and often philosophical insights which he brought to biology. When I discovered that Maturana was a regular visitor to Australia, I contacted the Melbourne coordinator of his biannual weekend seminar programme and organised to interview Maturana by telephone. The following is a transcript of that interview.
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